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I'm looking forward to starting a Shield playthrough and I want a decent Water type for my in-game team. I'm thinking of just picking Sobble as my starter since I like it quite a bit, but i'm not sure if there are other better options. What water type would be better for taking on the major battles of Shield?

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Barraskewda is fast, powerful, and has a wide range of coverage moves. I recommend it every single time someone needs a Water type.
Pelipper is pretty good too, especially if you were doing a Sword playthrough. Drizzle Pelipper is useful against Raihan especially, taking away the weather conditions that favor his team.
thank you, i'll definitely consider these
The current world record speedrun used an Inteleon, so Inteleon is definitely up there and very likely the best option.
source: https://www.speedrun.com/pkmnswordshield

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So, by asking what Water Types are good for a playthrough, I’m guessing you mean offensive, so I’m going with some of the best offensive water types with good coverage.

Physical Attackers

Barraskewda

Barraskewda is a punishing physical attacker with a speed stat that will allow you to outspeed nearly all the competition. You can learn powerful moves such as Liquidation and Crunch. With TRs, you can get great coverage with Psychic Fangs, Close Combat, and Poison Fang, and Drill Run, allowing you to smash Opal, Melony, and Piers. The combination of Crunch and Poison Jab will allow you sweep Allister. Poison Jab is also great against Bede.

Gyarados

If you can live with Magikarp for a couple of the first gyms, Gyarados will pay off. Gyarados probably has the best movepool if you’re struggling to get / find TMs or TRs. You get Waterfall as powerful STAB and access to coverage in Ice Fang and Crunch. You get the all-powerful setup move in Dragon Dance at Lv. 36. The only TR you could really use is Earthquake. Ice Fang can cleanly wipe out about half of Raihan’s team. Gyarados can probably handle about every trainer but Melony, but that’s why you have 6 Pokémon now.

Special Attackers

Inteleon

Yeah, the Pokémon is a starter, of course it’s going to be good. Inteleon is like a special Barraskewda that’s a bit bulkier and has less coverage. This Pokémon has nothing on Milo when it’s Sobble or Melony later on. Snipe Shot is your signature move, but honestly not much better than Waterfall on Gyarados. You’ll be a little reliant on TMs, needing Ice Beam for some coverage and Shadow Ball for Allister. Raihan and Piers could be difficult without many ways to hit them Super Effectively, but if you play right it should be fine.

Pelipper

Pelipper has one thing going for it that makes it relevant. Drizzle, although in order to find one you might have to evolve a few Wingulls to get one. Pelipper gets some powerful attacks in Hurricane and Hydro Pump, though they come quite late. So until then you have mediocre STABs in Water Pulse and Air Slash. Through TMs you can get coverage in Ice Beam. You’ll have neutral matches vs Allister and Opal. The place where Pelipper proves its value is Kabu and Raihan. Pelipper can swap in and take away the weather conditions that give those gym leaders an advantage.

Against Gym Leaders:

This is based what gyms each Pokémon can easily deal with:

Good Against:
Barraskewda: Kabu, Allister, Opal, Melony, Piers
Gyarados: Kabu, Allister, Piers, Raihan
Inteleon: Kabu, Allister, Raihan
Pelipper: Milo(Wing Attack), Kabu, Raihan

Okay against:
Barraskewda: Milo(Peck), Nessa
Gyarados: None
Inteleon: Nessa, Opal
Pelipper: Allister, Piers

Bad Against
Barraskewda: None
Gyarados: Milo and Nessa(you be Magikarp), Melony
Inteleon: Milo, Melony
Pelipper: Nesssa(Drednaw), Melony

Good-3
Okay-2
Bad-1

1-Barraskewda-19
2-Pelipper-15 Inteleon-15 Gyarados-15

Some other notes:

Barraskewda is probably the most TM / TR reliant, while Gyarados is the least. Inteleon probably has the worst coverage, and Barraskewda the best. All four of these Pokémon are easy to obtain, although Pelipper with Drizzle is probably the hardest one to get.

Final Notes

The best choice is either Barraskewda or Gyarados. Pelipper’s only niche is Drizzle and its good attack moves come really late. Inteleon has terrible coverage. Inteleon also takes a valuable starter spot that you could use for Rillaboom or Cinderance instead. Barraskewda if you don’t mind getting the TMs for coverage. Gyarados if you would rather not be TM reliant. Hope this helped!

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It's probably better to compare how they perform in boss battles instead of just giving them arbitrary points in categories. In my experience, obtainability and attack power matter more than all the other categories, and Inteleon, Gyarados, and Barraskewda have such similar attack powers that it doesn't make much sense to give Barraskewda twice as many points as Gyarados.
I gave some information on how each Pokémon handles gym battles, although I could be more Specific.To be fair I understand that Weather control is a ‘huh?’ category, but Sanstorm-Stealth Rock Raihan is pretty annoying. The Attack Power category may seem unfair, but it’s based on base Atk / SpAtk, though I guess when you’re over leveled it doesn’t matter too much. I believe TR / TM is an extremely important thing to take into account, since getting these TMs / TRs can be extremely time consuming, so it’s nice to have options non-reliant on them.
In that case, why did you list Barraskewda first in attack power when its physical attack is slightly less than Gyarados's physical attack and Inteleon's special attack? And you still haven't explained why second, third, and fourth always get 3, 2, and 1 points no matter how close they are to first. Also I think ice beam is really the only TM that significantly benefits Inteleon. It shouldn't need shadow ball when a super effective shadow ball is only a bit stronger than STAB snipe shot.
By "compare how they perform in boss battles", I meant simply counting the number of boss battles where each Pokemon can defeat more than half of the opponent's Pokemon and seeing which Pokemon has the biggest resulting number. I think that'll be more accurate than what you're doing right now.
Ok, I’ll change the scoring system.
thank you, sorry for the late reply. With that in mind, i'll pick barraskewda.
You’re welcome!